Is Investing in a Trading System a Rip Off Compared to Going to University?
I was attending an introductory 3 hour seminar held by an Options trader back in 2005 with a friend who had never traded or invested in anything his whole life (with the exception of his superannuation fund which he did not manage). I was there for my friend who wanted to know a bit about trading and investing.
The seminar went well and you could tell this by the large number of people interacting; but also because my friend, a very risk averse person was also becoming keen to know more. But when the inevitable sales pitch came he sunk to the bottom of his chair.
"What's wrong?" I asked him with which he replied, "You've got to be joking he's asking fifteen hundred for this course? I don't think so; do you want to go halves, maybe I'll consider it?"
I smiled and thought for a bit; I already knew what I wanted to ask him, the problem was I wondered whether I should or not. Finally I succumbed.
"Can I ask you what your debt is for your university course (he was studying Information Technology)?" "Sure it's about $5000, but will be more like $7000 by the time I've finished". "Ok" I said, "does this come with a guarantee of a job, or even a money back guarantee should you decide after a while you don't want to do IT?"
"What?" and he gave me this most puzzling look.
"Well think about it. Becoming an IT professional is a great career if that's what you want to do, but in reality your income will always be capped, and the only way to uncap it is to become a business owner which is a whole new career in itself. Secondly, there's no guarantee you'll even get a job once you've completed it. I'm not saying that $7000 is too much but it's a fair whack."
"Compare this to a course where the owner is a millionaire and practices his craft at the same time. I'm not saying you're going to become a millionaire using his course or that you'll even like it but he's asking less, for information that helped him become financially free. As far as I'm concerned there is no comparison."
My friend thought for a while and realized he had no answer to what I had said however I refused his proposal to go halves. I had no intention of buying the course; I was only there for my friend. As it turns out he never did end up buying it.
As a trader though I'm not going to defend those who sell trading courses anymore like I did back then as my outlook has changed; but that does not mean I advocate the university education system and the debt scheme attached to it either. Nothing has changed there for me.
What has changed though is my realization that what's important in trading and investing tuition is sorely lacking. A system with rules and indicators is simply not enough. For one, it is usually built by one or two people who share a common goal. All those who try to emulate their system have completely different goals, resources, emotions, strengths and weaknesses and the list goes on.
This is why if you've ever bought into someone else's trading course that comes with some sort of support or forum you'll notice the majority can never get to their desired level. They either completely fail or fluctuate up and down along with their emotions. Those that do make it work have managed to do so because they had a very similar set of circumstances, resources, strengths and maybe even goals. This is why so few can make someone else's method work.
I even witnessed a famous trader who sells his trading workshop for many thousands of dollars admit that only around 3 or 4 of his 15 that he lets in gets it (meaning the rest waste their time and money and are unable to make it work)! That is ludicrous in my view to know this fact, and still take their money. The thing is this teacher is obviously unaware and unable to teach his students the ingredients that made him a success. He just teaches them his system.
I even drilled a trader hosting a Webinar for his latest tuition. I kept asking him if he had several methods of trading and flexibility that enabled someone to adopt a method to suit their resources, personality and strengths; and also if he helped the trader to uncover their strengths. He could not answer me.
What I am saying is that the road to success in trading requires you to look at who you are, what you have, and then how you can use what you have to achieve your goals. If you're in the market for a trading system make sure you find out whether the system will suit you otherwise you'll just become another statistic.Author
Dean Whittingham is one owner of Pentagonal Trading and is a professional trader and trading coach. His passion lies in changing the trading landscape to prevent the many novice traders being ripped off but also to educate traders on the 5 essential steps of trading. If you're looking to find the right education on trading visit Pentagonal Trading System Development Read More......
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Forex Advice - Simple Tips For Getting The Best Advice
by Monica Hendrix
Today with the growth of online trading there are more vendors offering forex advice than ever before and they all claim they can lead you to currency trading success. The reality most of it will just see you lose. So use this factor when judging it:It may sound obvious but a real time track record of profits.
The bulk of advice over 90% is not worth the money and you can get better advice on the net for free.
Most vendors simply make up track records and produce a hypothetical track record that is done you guessed it in hindsight - Knowing the closing prices! Well that's hard.
You will also get testimonials but these are normally made up friends or traders who had a lucky trade.
If you ask for the real time track record you know the vendor has had success himself and while this doesn't mean you will win it at least shows they have confidence to trade their own system.
Finding good advice
You can get a lot of good research for free:
From banks and brokers and a lot of it is very good and you can get ideas - You shouldn't follow it blindly and you should always compare it with your analysis but for ideas its great place top start.
While a lot of the vendors who sell advice will give you a system it is normally of little use as it doesn't have a real time track record and you should ignore it - all you need is on the net and it's free.
Here is what you need to do.
1. Look up technical analysis and learn how and why it works and learn the concept of support and resistance
2. Then you need to learn the concept of breakout trading how and why it works
3. What you want to do is to trade against support and resistance and you need to get the odds in your favour, so you need some momentum indicators to help you.
Go to a good free chart service such as futuresource.com and learn about stochastic and the Relative strength Index and how to use them.
You can then trade support and resistance and use these indicators to time entry.
The above will give you a perfectly robust system you can apply for profits. All the information is free and to help you we have written numerous articles on building forex trading systems so look them up.
There is some advice worth paying for and you can get that from Amazon.com
Two essential books are:
1. Market Wizards by Jack Schwager that interviews some of the top traders of all time. These are traders who don't just talk the talk they have walked the walk and made millions.
2. Also get "Way of the turtle" by Curtis Faith - He learned to trade in just 14 days in a famous experiment devised by legendary trader Richard Dennis to prove that anyone could learn to trade.
These traders known as the turtles went on to become some of the most successful traders of all time, all learned to trade in just 14 days and all had no previous trading experience.
Curtis Faith made $30 million and was the most successful turtle of all and this is a great book for anyone wanting to know what you need to do to become a successful trader.
So your system you can get free on the net and the two books above will give you a good introduction to the mindset of the successful trader.
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